I have been in and out or court more times than one can count as plaintiff, defendant and witness. The legal system is DESIGNED to be abusive; only a sociopath can possibly survive in that environment unscathed. I have learned over the years that, rather than being the least corrupt of the three branches of government, the judicial branch is easily the most corrupt...by a long reach...because nothing that happens there is transparent.
Anyone can be sued at any time. The lists of reactions and feelings you have put above may feel like part of marriage and family resolution, but they apply to every civil suit and to most criminal suits as well. As noted, the suits and the process are designed to be abusive. Papers are always served at 4:59:59 on Friday afternoon. Process servers work hard to find the most disruptive place to serve process. Laws are written to make sure everyone is guilty of something all of the time -- it is just whether today is your day to be assailed because you have become "an enemy" of someone.
The intermediate resolution techniques seldom work in my experience. I have yet to have EVER had a mediation accomplish anything except enriching the mediator. The point of almost all of these actions by one of the parties is TO WIN, not to move on. The exceptions generally solve themselves without a third party, although I am sure they are sometimes of use -- but have never been to me. I have settled plenty out of court, but it always takes the judge making clear who is going to win and then, and only then, is one side willing to move enough to end it all.
It is an interesting take to allege violation of the ADA by imposing PTSD on litigants. Has this ever been tested in court? This would be the judges deciding against themselves and what they do -- I find that impossible to imagine. But I would be intrigued to hear.
It warms my heart to hear form you. I have also been a plaintiff (not in court), a defendant and an expert psychological witness a few times. The worst years of my life were consumed by unwanted involvement in the legal system. I became the enemy of the state, never had an enemy in my life before. Most of it was not marriage and family which makes difficult situation infinitely worse. My civil case was completely unnecessary and easily resolvable. Yes, anybody, any time.Like with you, every court mediation I have been part of or witnessed has failed. It's not true mediation. People with LAS can bring an advocate to court, can request things like not to be in the same room with their abuser or to have their advocate speak for them. You can read examples in Huffer's books, She was an advocate. had I known years ago and had an advocateit might ave changed the dynamics and challenge stuff that the r other side did in a way that I cud not. I did the training but never got a chance to practice. Whatkind of Dr. are you?
Diane, I am a long-practicing (and long suffering) hematologist...But have worked widely in allied areas (also board certified in microbiology) and have spent much time in health tech. So I have had a chance to see it all...sort of...
I've experienced this. I agree with Dr. K (below) about it being designed to be abusive. Regular people enter into legal proceedings expecting justice, but it doesn't exist. Legal proceedings are a war game lawyers play with each other. In the simplest terms, it's a game of "chicken" and who will flinch first.
I agree that many mediations are a joke. However, I did prevail after an 8 hour mediation one time. I also won a civil suit - sort of - via settlement where I had to wait 3 years for "justice." In each of these cases the abuses were there and it took a huge toll on my health. I learned about IBN (interest based negotitation) at my current job, but all parties have to agree to the rules, otherwise it doesn't work and people can let their "dark side" rule their emotions and it all goes to hell. The nice IBN people try hard to get everyone to be their best selves, but at the end of the day, it's all the raft of Medusa and we're just animals.
That's wonderful that your mediation succeeded. It seems your mediator had integrity and persisted. Yes, it definitely takes a toll on health. Not only do lawyers play chicken, some throw their clients under the bus and collude with the other side.
I cannot contribute to the 'bad lawyer' aspect. Somehow been blessed. Even with public defenders. Some serious miracles worked. I hope everyone else finds the same if needed.
Diane time permitting: Mattias Desmet is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University in Belgium. His theory of mass formation during the coronavirus crisis has become widely known and widely misunderstood since gaining mainstream attention. His new book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism, lays out what mass formation is, how it develops, how it leads to totalitarianism, and what we must do to change the conditions that makes these mass formation events possible.
Here is one of the best interviews. I also appreciate the one you sent. Rob goes through each chapter of his book - going into his work beyond mass formation. https://youtu.be/JnEbvYQQcUo
I have been in and out or court more times than one can count as plaintiff, defendant and witness. The legal system is DESIGNED to be abusive; only a sociopath can possibly survive in that environment unscathed. I have learned over the years that, rather than being the least corrupt of the three branches of government, the judicial branch is easily the most corrupt...by a long reach...because nothing that happens there is transparent.
Anyone can be sued at any time. The lists of reactions and feelings you have put above may feel like part of marriage and family resolution, but they apply to every civil suit and to most criminal suits as well. As noted, the suits and the process are designed to be abusive. Papers are always served at 4:59:59 on Friday afternoon. Process servers work hard to find the most disruptive place to serve process. Laws are written to make sure everyone is guilty of something all of the time -- it is just whether today is your day to be assailed because you have become "an enemy" of someone.
The intermediate resolution techniques seldom work in my experience. I have yet to have EVER had a mediation accomplish anything except enriching the mediator. The point of almost all of these actions by one of the parties is TO WIN, not to move on. The exceptions generally solve themselves without a third party, although I am sure they are sometimes of use -- but have never been to me. I have settled plenty out of court, but it always takes the judge making clear who is going to win and then, and only then, is one side willing to move enough to end it all.
It is an interesting take to allege violation of the ADA by imposing PTSD on litigants. Has this ever been tested in court? This would be the judges deciding against themselves and what they do -- I find that impossible to imagine. But I would be intrigued to hear.
It warms my heart to hear form you. I have also been a plaintiff (not in court), a defendant and an expert psychological witness a few times. The worst years of my life were consumed by unwanted involvement in the legal system. I became the enemy of the state, never had an enemy in my life before. Most of it was not marriage and family which makes difficult situation infinitely worse. My civil case was completely unnecessary and easily resolvable. Yes, anybody, any time.Like with you, every court mediation I have been part of or witnessed has failed. It's not true mediation. People with LAS can bring an advocate to court, can request things like not to be in the same room with their abuser or to have their advocate speak for them. You can read examples in Huffer's books, She was an advocate. had I known years ago and had an advocateit might ave changed the dynamics and challenge stuff that the r other side did in a way that I cud not. I did the training but never got a chance to practice. Whatkind of Dr. are you?
Diane, I am a long-practicing (and long suffering) hematologist...But have worked widely in allied areas (also board certified in microbiology) and have spent much time in health tech. So I have had a chance to see it all...sort of...
I've experienced this. I agree with Dr. K (below) about it being designed to be abusive. Regular people enter into legal proceedings expecting justice, but it doesn't exist. Legal proceedings are a war game lawyers play with each other. In the simplest terms, it's a game of "chicken" and who will flinch first.
I agree that many mediations are a joke. However, I did prevail after an 8 hour mediation one time. I also won a civil suit - sort of - via settlement where I had to wait 3 years for "justice." In each of these cases the abuses were there and it took a huge toll on my health. I learned about IBN (interest based negotitation) at my current job, but all parties have to agree to the rules, otherwise it doesn't work and people can let their "dark side" rule their emotions and it all goes to hell. The nice IBN people try hard to get everyone to be their best selves, but at the end of the day, it's all the raft of Medusa and we're just animals.
That's wonderful that your mediation succeeded. It seems your mediator had integrity and persisted. Yes, it definitely takes a toll on health. Not only do lawyers play chicken, some throw their clients under the bus and collude with the other side.
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I cannot contribute to the 'bad lawyer' aspect. Somehow been blessed. Even with public defenders. Some serious miracles worked. I hope everyone else finds the same if needed.
Diane time permitting: Mattias Desmet is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University in Belgium. His theory of mass formation during the coronavirus crisis has become widely known and widely misunderstood since gaining mainstream attention. His new book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism, lays out what mass formation is, how it develops, how it leads to totalitarianism, and what we must do to change the conditions that makes these mass formation events possible.
https://www.corbettreport.com/desmet-massformation/
Thanks, I have heard many of his interviews and look forward to this one
Here is one of the best interviews. I also appreciate the one you sent. Rob goes through each chapter of his book - going into his work beyond mass formation. https://youtu.be/JnEbvYQQcUo
Thank you, I'll download Rob's video and share.
I am not familiar with him but many people are