I've been thinking that the non-vaccinated have been affected by those who received the covid shots via shedding the spike protein via exosomes. More is being written about shedding being a real thing and I wonder if everyone's immunity is damaged because of this. This was a helpful article, thank you.
I got sick after being in an enclosed space for a long time with a vaxxed person (he was visiting and had a fast-growing tumor in his neck that started a couple weeks earlier). I didn't test myself, but it felt like the Covid I had previously, though not near as bad. I try to avoid the vaxxed, especially in closed rooms, but you can't live like that all the time. I think there is a small (?) percentage of them that are very sick and giving something off.
Seems they want us dead. I too had something serious back in 11-2019 and nothing serious since. I have had issues with exposure to the vaxxed, namely heart palps for which I take fresh not stale walnuts and Hawthorne tincture, and am fine. I avoid the vaxxed as I can, and am ceasing shaking hands and hugging despite what some people suggest I do not feel its worth the risk at this time.
My understanding of virology was explained to me this way. The body identifies the virus by the protein shell. If this protein shell changes the body cannot identify it, and it acts as a new pathogen, which comes on strong. If one is exposed to the pathogen that has the same protein shell, you have some natural immunity, and the subsequent infections will not be as bad. NI after initial infection *of the same protein shell* does not prevent all symptoms all the time.
Thus, because the viruses that cause the common cold change protein shells often, we cannot develop a vaccine against it. It is a highly mutating viral group. The cold, and flu, are caused by many different viruses, the coronavirus group is just one of the groups. Even with the flu vaccine, the Powers What Is have to decide which variants to put into the flu shot by May, so the shot is ready by mid-September every year. The flu viruses also change their protein shell a lot, but not as much as the viruses which cause a cold. And sometimes the Powers What Is guess wrong and the flu shot doesn't help some people, depending on which protein-shell variants are circulating in the local area.
Am I wrong here?
So the BA1 variant sounds like it has a different protein shell than the BA4 and BA5, but the media never mentions the protein shell when they mention variants. My guess is a variant may or may not have the same protein shell as another variant.
Thanks for that explanation. I also read that people who get the flu shot are more likely to get flu strains that are not in the shot. I have always said I would rather get the flu than the flu shot.
Nothing is ever mentioned about eating healthy, organic food, use of herbs, and a generally healthy and stress free life style. Would the outcome of covid been very different with a population having those qualities?
Nothing is mentioned about food being organic when organic food recalled due to food poisoning. Organic food is not safe just because it is organic. It may not be any safer to theorize who eat it than non organic. As organic food may have organic contamination, which can grow and spread, organic food has its own dangers.
However, you point is a valid one. Early one, at least one doctor pointed out that covid -19 is not the pandemic. He stated that we had a pandemic of vitamin and mineral deficiency made apparent by a novel virus.
Depends on the lifestyle. One who lives in a sterile environment and is busy sterilizing everything would be more at risk of "organic contamination".
Probably the sense of moving to Mars to escape it all. Hahaha!
Immunologists type the best immune systems are those working all the time, seems our bodies are tuned in, takes what it needs and discards the rest of this organic planet.
True. I am not against organic food. Tastes great! But it burns me up when I read of a young child who died of bacteria from his dinner and the parents quarter as saying something along the lines of, ‘We only gave him organic food so that he would be healthy.’.
That would be a sad story indeed. The child was probably injected with different concoctions, loved wearing masks and all manner of other sterilization techniques, which detuned the immune system from the planet to the concoctions and sterilization. There is an author on stack who is exploring how DNA adapts so I am thinking that is what is happening to humans in general, maladapting to the technology away from the overtime successful biology of the planet. A grand experiment! Always there are exceptions of course. Just what I am thinking, doesn't mean I am absolutely right.
The specific instance I referred to and all I have read about about predate covid by a number of years. I think it was E. Coli in lettuce, perhaps spinach. In this case, perhaps another, the offending bacterial was found to be prevalent in the soil and on and in all equipment used on the farm.
E coli is also in our stomachs. Anaerobic bacteria. I have it all over the place in my gardens I bet. One lady was insistent I will die of sepsis like 7-8 years ago.
Good for you for trying. You can tell them that these were not safety tested together in combination and that in other countries they don't give so many at once. Pediatrician Paul Thomas has a book "The Vaccine Friendly Guide" and Neil Z Miller has a few books, a Vaccine Safety Manual describing each vaccine. His website is http://thinktwice.com Also each vaccine has an toxic adjuvant, like aluminum so there are several together.
Before Covid-19, good people, normal people, know coronaviruses mutate rapidly, and are always and everywhere a poor candidate for vaccination campaigns. People know natural immunity works well, but you can get influenza more than once, you can get a common cold every year.
During Covid-19, governments tell us to lockdown until a vaccine becomes available for a novel disease because everyone's immune system is a blank slate. Attempts are made to have it both ways: droplet spread requiring surgical masks, and aerosolized spread by asymptomatic carriers to feed terror in spite of masks especially for those who can sit safely behind a laptop and order in food to their apartment while they are scared.
During Covid-19, good people, normal people, argue strongly that being infected and fully recovered offers you durable immunity against this novel disease. The Delta wave passes.
Then Omicron is released, and is sufficiently different from the virus people endured to build natural immunity in 2020, that people get covid again in 2022. We are back at square one: viruses that mutate can give you a new common cold every year of your life. Viruses that are engineered by governments can infect you as often as governments revise them, every year of your life.
Natural immunity didn't fail, but it can't do what we initially asked of it in the heat of arguing for exceptions to vaccination mandates. That is, it can't stop common colds. We have to disrupt our government's creation of uncommon colds for the purpose of profit or control.
There was a lot of chatter about Omicron's release last winter: it lacked close relatives, so it was not a natural evolution; was it a white-hat operation, or a black-hat operation? Who threw Omicron into the ring then, and why?
Sorry, I can not offer anything remotely expert on this post. I have a few questions and observations that may be of some small value. All that you wrote on how virus mutate to more successful, meaning more easily spread and less deadly, variants or die and how NI was achieved and the protections it offered were learned by myself in elementary school in the 70s and 80s. My parents learned this in elementary school a generation earlier. As with many of the problems we face today, I am often wondering if I was they only one in my class who did not sleep through science and history classes. Somewhere along the way, I learned that vaccinating during a pandemic was as bad an idea as one could dream up. How is it that not only the experts but the vast majority of mankind forgot or choose to ignore these lessons?
On to your hypotheses. It seems to me that more than one may be at play here. Number 5., The Lockdown prolonged the Pandemic. Not only has this been of concern, the lockdowns were called out early on as having the perverse affect of harming immunity to all communicable diseases, causing great harm to young children who were denied the opportunity to be exposed to them while their immune systems were still in the formative stages of development. Also harms those of us who are older as it allows our immune systems to get “flabby” with inactivity. Perhaps this plays a part in the increase in all cause mortality we are seeing in many parts of the world. Hypothesis 2 is certainly true in that we have never done vaccinated during a pandemic. We must expect unexpected outcomes. Same is true for number three. All of these could be playing their own roles in this. True with the others.
Another thought that is forming. Let’s see if I can get this out correctly. Does infection with a different variant indicate a change in NI? Catching the flu does not prevent us from getting it again, especially a different type. How many times have you had the common cold? Could catching two different versions of covid be a similar situation?
Thanks for your thoughtful response, Interesting that you and your parents learned tis long ago. I don't think change in variants change NI, but evade NI - I need scientists who know more than I to weigh in on this.
It wasn’t just us, but all with whom we shared classrooms with. Was this not more or less universally taught? I agree that it probably does not change NI. I see no way that it could. We have different kinds and levels of NI. Catching one version of a virus can make us immune to that version and in some cases, aid in immunity to other, similar versions but not to all other versions. Just as getting the flu does not stop us from getting flu again.
"Catching the flu does not prevent us from getting it again..."
My thoughts exactly. In my non-scientist view, the question is less about becoming entirely immune from covid vs. testing positive; the question is more about whether a person suffers serious harm from covid or not. If the vax prevented serious harm, which it doesn't, then it would be a no-brainer to take the vax if there were years of trials and barely any adverse reactions.
Another thought: What happened to the notion of asymptomatic spread? If NI *doesn't* exist, but helps in keeping covid asymptomatic, then does it matter if you test positive or not?
Here's the worst-case scenario the MSM has been screaming at us for almost three years: You get covid and don't know it. You pray or sing or otherwise be human with other humans. Grandma dies because you unknowingly gave her covid. Was this ever possible, and if so, is it still possible with BA5?
And rightly so; what you mention was refashioned as "pre-symptomatic" as soon as it had become widely known that the asymptomatic spread claim was but another whopper from the common fraud Drosten of the RT-PCR test infamy.
Asymptomatic spread, if it exists in this case, is a fact of life that we are powerless to do anything about. We have tried various degrees of lockdowns, none of which have prevented the spread. It can not be stopped, end of story. No need to destroy the worldwide economy in the vain attempt to do so. Sadly, that is exactly what we have tried to do.
Possible? Maybe. Growing up in the 70s and 80s, grandkids often couldn’t visit their grandparents if they were sick with anything. But that is the nature of many diseases. What makes one stronger kills another. If we are exposed to a bad bug when for whatever reasons our immune system is not operating properly, it might do use in. Otherwise, it might not even give us the slightest s amount of symptoms. As were fighting off numerous infections all the time before lockdowns, it might have been possible for asymptomatic persons to infect others. But there is nothing we can do about this. 2 years of various degrees of lock downs didn’t stop it. Add masks wearing, spraying and wiping surfaces with disinfectant, disinfecting hands upon entering venues and all the rest and we get the same result; we can’t stop it. We were foolish to even allow them to try.
The way the issue is framed may, understandably, result in chasing a whole school of red herring.
Instead, suppose there is no virus, and NI does not come into play. Suppose there is at least one bioweapon deliberately released on the population as and when, and its makeup is not viral at all. Via some mechanism, it delivers pathogens and/or toxins causing major cellular damage, which the body needs to clear urgently, and is hard-pressed to do so; it manifests as a dis-ease. According to Dr. David Martin and if I recall correctly, the spike protein itself is classified as a biological weapon in its own right, and Dr. Lyons-Weiler fittingly called it Universal Synergistic Neurotoxin in one of his substacks earlier this year.
Alex Berenson wrote a while back that the health agencies in Great Britain had found evidence the mRNA shots disrupted your ability to create natural immunity upon infection
I've been thinking that the non-vaccinated have been affected by those who received the covid shots via shedding the spike protein via exosomes. More is being written about shedding being a real thing and I wonder if everyone's immunity is damaged because of this. This was a helpful article, thank you.
1. We already have the technology for self-spreading vaccines. https://wordsalad.info/tag-vaccinespreaders.html
1.5 And the spike protein spreads also to the unvaccinated.
Pfizer Confirms COVID-Vaccinated People Can 'Shed' Spike Proteins And Harm The Unvaccinated. In their latest issue brief, America's Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) warned how spike proteins resulting from experimental COVID-19 gene therapy vaccines have the capacity to 1.) pass through the "blood-brain barrier" causing neurological damage, 2.) be "shed" by the vaccinated, bringing about sickness in unvaccinated children and adults, and 3.) cause irregular vaginal bleeding in women. https://www.nationaltimesaustralia.com/health/pfizer-confirms-covid-vaccinated-people-can-shed-spike-proteins-and-harm-the-unvaccinated/ Study: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/12/04/2020.12.04.409144.full.pdf Pfizer's document: http://82.221.129.208/pfizervax.pdf
2. There's a study that shows graphene is spread from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. https://sciencenews22.substack.com/p/graphene-transmitted-from-vaccinated
I got sick after being in an enclosed space for a long time with a vaxxed person (he was visiting and had a fast-growing tumor in his neck that started a couple weeks earlier). I didn't test myself, but it felt like the Covid I had previously, though not near as bad. I try to avoid the vaxxed, especially in closed rooms, but you can't live like that all the time. I think there is a small (?) percentage of them that are very sick and giving something off.
Seems they want us dead. I too had something serious back in 11-2019 and nothing serious since. I have had issues with exposure to the vaxxed, namely heart palps for which I take fresh not stale walnuts and Hawthorne tincture, and am fine. I avoid the vaxxed as I can, and am ceasing shaking hands and hugging despite what some people suggest I do not feel its worth the risk at this time.
My understanding of virology was explained to me this way. The body identifies the virus by the protein shell. If this protein shell changes the body cannot identify it, and it acts as a new pathogen, which comes on strong. If one is exposed to the pathogen that has the same protein shell, you have some natural immunity, and the subsequent infections will not be as bad. NI after initial infection *of the same protein shell* does not prevent all symptoms all the time.
Thus, because the viruses that cause the common cold change protein shells often, we cannot develop a vaccine against it. It is a highly mutating viral group. The cold, and flu, are caused by many different viruses, the coronavirus group is just one of the groups. Even with the flu vaccine, the Powers What Is have to decide which variants to put into the flu shot by May, so the shot is ready by mid-September every year. The flu viruses also change their protein shell a lot, but not as much as the viruses which cause a cold. And sometimes the Powers What Is guess wrong and the flu shot doesn't help some people, depending on which protein-shell variants are circulating in the local area.
Am I wrong here?
So the BA1 variant sounds like it has a different protein shell than the BA4 and BA5, but the media never mentions the protein shell when they mention variants. My guess is a variant may or may not have the same protein shell as another variant.
Thanks for that explanation. I also read that people who get the flu shot are more likely to get flu strains that are not in the shot. I have always said I would rather get the flu than the flu shot.
Nothing is ever mentioned about eating healthy, organic food, use of herbs, and a generally healthy and stress free life style. Would the outcome of covid been very different with a population having those qualities?
Agreed. I just added in to my sentence on boosting my immune system with D,C,,etc "eating healthy" I address that in other places. Thanks
That, is the right question.
Agriculture is a fascist endeavor to produce unhealthy people. Sick people fill hospital beds.
Nothing is mentioned about food being organic when organic food recalled due to food poisoning. Organic food is not safe just because it is organic. It may not be any safer to theorize who eat it than non organic. As organic food may have organic contamination, which can grow and spread, organic food has its own dangers.
However, you point is a valid one. Early one, at least one doctor pointed out that covid -19 is not the pandemic. He stated that we had a pandemic of vitamin and mineral deficiency made apparent by a novel virus.
Depends on the lifestyle. One who lives in a sterile environment and is busy sterilizing everything would be more at risk of "organic contamination".
Probably the sense of moving to Mars to escape it all. Hahaha!
Immunologists type the best immune systems are those working all the time, seems our bodies are tuned in, takes what it needs and discards the rest of this organic planet.
True. I am not against organic food. Tastes great! But it burns me up when I read of a young child who died of bacteria from his dinner and the parents quarter as saying something along the lines of, ‘We only gave him organic food so that he would be healthy.’.
That would be a sad story indeed. The child was probably injected with different concoctions, loved wearing masks and all manner of other sterilization techniques, which detuned the immune system from the planet to the concoctions and sterilization. There is an author on stack who is exploring how DNA adapts so I am thinking that is what is happening to humans in general, maladapting to the technology away from the overtime successful biology of the planet. A grand experiment! Always there are exceptions of course. Just what I am thinking, doesn't mean I am absolutely right.
The specific instance I referred to and all I have read about about predate covid by a number of years. I think it was E. Coli in lettuce, perhaps spinach. In this case, perhaps another, the offending bacterial was found to be prevalent in the soil and on and in all equipment used on the farm.
E coli is also in our stomachs. Anaerobic bacteria. I have it all over the place in my gardens I bet. One lady was insistent I will die of sepsis like 7-8 years ago.
Good for you for trying. You can tell them that these were not safety tested together in combination and that in other countries they don't give so many at once. Pediatrician Paul Thomas has a book "The Vaccine Friendly Guide" and Neil Z Miller has a few books, a Vaccine Safety Manual describing each vaccine. His website is http://thinktwice.com Also each vaccine has an toxic adjuvant, like aluminum so there are several together.
Echoing Kitsune and Andy's line of thinking,
Before Covid-19, good people, normal people, know coronaviruses mutate rapidly, and are always and everywhere a poor candidate for vaccination campaigns. People know natural immunity works well, but you can get influenza more than once, you can get a common cold every year.
During Covid-19, governments tell us to lockdown until a vaccine becomes available for a novel disease because everyone's immune system is a blank slate. Attempts are made to have it both ways: droplet spread requiring surgical masks, and aerosolized spread by asymptomatic carriers to feed terror in spite of masks especially for those who can sit safely behind a laptop and order in food to their apartment while they are scared.
During Covid-19, good people, normal people, argue strongly that being infected and fully recovered offers you durable immunity against this novel disease. The Delta wave passes.
Then Omicron is released, and is sufficiently different from the virus people endured to build natural immunity in 2020, that people get covid again in 2022. We are back at square one: viruses that mutate can give you a new common cold every year of your life. Viruses that are engineered by governments can infect you as often as governments revise them, every year of your life.
Natural immunity didn't fail, but it can't do what we initially asked of it in the heat of arguing for exceptions to vaccination mandates. That is, it can't stop common colds. We have to disrupt our government's creation of uncommon colds for the purpose of profit or control.
There was a lot of chatter about Omicron's release last winter: it lacked close relatives, so it was not a natural evolution; was it a white-hat operation, or a black-hat operation? Who threw Omicron into the ring then, and why?
My comment on viral immunity may help you. https://coronawise.substack.com/p/new-diagnosis-artificially-induced/comment/9584323
Sorry, I can not offer anything remotely expert on this post. I have a few questions and observations that may be of some small value. All that you wrote on how virus mutate to more successful, meaning more easily spread and less deadly, variants or die and how NI was achieved and the protections it offered were learned by myself in elementary school in the 70s and 80s. My parents learned this in elementary school a generation earlier. As with many of the problems we face today, I am often wondering if I was they only one in my class who did not sleep through science and history classes. Somewhere along the way, I learned that vaccinating during a pandemic was as bad an idea as one could dream up. How is it that not only the experts but the vast majority of mankind forgot or choose to ignore these lessons?
On to your hypotheses. It seems to me that more than one may be at play here. Number 5., The Lockdown prolonged the Pandemic. Not only has this been of concern, the lockdowns were called out early on as having the perverse affect of harming immunity to all communicable diseases, causing great harm to young children who were denied the opportunity to be exposed to them while their immune systems were still in the formative stages of development. Also harms those of us who are older as it allows our immune systems to get “flabby” with inactivity. Perhaps this plays a part in the increase in all cause mortality we are seeing in many parts of the world. Hypothesis 2 is certainly true in that we have never done vaccinated during a pandemic. We must expect unexpected outcomes. Same is true for number three. All of these could be playing their own roles in this. True with the others.
Another thought that is forming. Let’s see if I can get this out correctly. Does infection with a different variant indicate a change in NI? Catching the flu does not prevent us from getting it again, especially a different type. How many times have you had the common cold? Could catching two different versions of covid be a similar situation?
Thanks for your thoughtful response, Interesting that you and your parents learned tis long ago. I don't think change in variants change NI, but evade NI - I need scientists who know more than I to weigh in on this.
It wasn’t just us, but all with whom we shared classrooms with. Was this not more or less universally taught? I agree that it probably does not change NI. I see no way that it could. We have different kinds and levels of NI. Catching one version of a virus can make us immune to that version and in some cases, aid in immunity to other, similar versions but not to all other versions. Just as getting the flu does not stop us from getting flu again.
Please see my comment here about what I was taught about the viral protein shell and how it relates to immunity. https://coronawise.substack.com/p/new-diagnosis-artificially-induced/comment/9584323 This may answer some questions for you.
"Catching the flu does not prevent us from getting it again..."
My thoughts exactly. In my non-scientist view, the question is less about becoming entirely immune from covid vs. testing positive; the question is more about whether a person suffers serious harm from covid or not. If the vax prevented serious harm, which it doesn't, then it would be a no-brainer to take the vax if there were years of trials and barely any adverse reactions.
Another thought: What happened to the notion of asymptomatic spread? If NI *doesn't* exist, but helps in keeping covid asymptomatic, then does it matter if you test positive or not?
Here's the worst-case scenario the MSM has been screaming at us for almost three years: You get covid and don't know it. You pray or sing or otherwise be human with other humans. Grandma dies because you unknowingly gave her covid. Was this ever possible, and if so, is it still possible with BA5?
There may be asymptomatic spread the day before symptoms appear, but I am not certain about this.
And rightly so; what you mention was refashioned as "pre-symptomatic" as soon as it had become widely known that the asymptomatic spread claim was but another whopper from the common fraud Drosten of the RT-PCR test infamy.
Asymptomatic spread, if it exists in this case, is a fact of life that we are powerless to do anything about. We have tried various degrees of lockdowns, none of which have prevented the spread. It can not be stopped, end of story. No need to destroy the worldwide economy in the vain attempt to do so. Sadly, that is exactly what we have tried to do.
Possible? Maybe. Growing up in the 70s and 80s, grandkids often couldn’t visit their grandparents if they were sick with anything. But that is the nature of many diseases. What makes one stronger kills another. If we are exposed to a bad bug when for whatever reasons our immune system is not operating properly, it might do use in. Otherwise, it might not even give us the slightest s amount of symptoms. As were fighting off numerous infections all the time before lockdowns, it might have been possible for asymptomatic persons to infect others. But there is nothing we can do about this. 2 years of various degrees of lock downs didn’t stop it. Add masks wearing, spraying and wiping surfaces with disinfectant, disinfecting hands upon entering venues and all the rest and we get the same result; we can’t stop it. We were foolish to even allow them to try.
The way the issue is framed may, understandably, result in chasing a whole school of red herring.
Instead, suppose there is no virus, and NI does not come into play. Suppose there is at least one bioweapon deliberately released on the population as and when, and its makeup is not viral at all. Via some mechanism, it delivers pathogens and/or toxins causing major cellular damage, which the body needs to clear urgently, and is hard-pressed to do so; it manifests as a dis-ease. According to Dr. David Martin and if I recall correctly, the spike protein itself is classified as a biological weapon in its own right, and Dr. Lyons-Weiler fittingly called it Universal Synergistic Neurotoxin in one of his substacks earlier this year.
Alex Berenson wrote a while back that the health agencies in Great Britain had found evidence the mRNA shots disrupted your ability to create natural immunity upon infection
Thanks for this. DO you have a link? Good to know
Perhaps you needed to be taking a greater amount of Vitamin D and getting direct sunshine. Since taking high vit D I have not gotten colds or flu.
I assume high vitamin D helps but still there are artificial interventions that may alter evolutionary biology. .